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Non-consensual circumcision, be it male OR female circumcision, is disgusting to me. I know there is a massive movement fighting against female circumcision, which I will probably discuss in a future post, but unfortunately there are many that don’t bat an eyelid when it comes to male circumcision. In America and Third World Countries, it is viewed as a ‘cultural practice’ and ‘more hygienic.’ This has already been refuted online and I will put links to articles at the end that discuss this further. So to give my personal opinion on it:
It’s gross, it’s creepy, and it’s non-consensual. If an adult man wants to have his foreskin removed for surgical reasons or any other reasons, he has every right to make that choice. But to cut off a part of your baby’s penis when they have no say on it is wrong. I’m partially of African heritage, and there are males in my family that are circumcised; their viewpoints on it may differ from mine. I would never circumcise my son because I believe it’s barbaric to cut off part of an infant’s penis.
So why do people do it? What are the reasons for it?
It’s cleaner. Actually, this is not true. Being circumcised doesn’t make you ‘clean’ any more than being a virgin makes you ‘pure.’ What is with people and these old ways of thinking? Cleaning under your foreskin is not hard, or so I’ve heard from guys. As long as you wash daily just like you wash any part of your body daily, it’s fine. If a guy isn’t cleaning under his foreskin then, well, he can revel in his dirt. Saying ‘it’s hard to spend a few seconds washing a part of my body, I’ll just cut it off instead’ is a lame argument to me. Would you cut off your ears because they produce wax, or your nose because it produces mucus? My hands sweat constantly, shall I cut them off too?
It protects against STDs. The only thing that 99.9% when used perfectly protects you against STDs are condoms. However, there is some evidence that has been carried out that shows that in African countries, circumcised men are less likely to contract HIV than uncircumcised men. Perhaps this is why circumcision is so highly practiced in Africa. Nevertheless, condoms work every time, so again there is no need to circumcise your baby to ‘prevent STDs’ when they can use condoms. Also, being circumcised prevents condom use, and leads to the mistaken belief that being circumcised means not needing to use condoms.
Religious/cultural practices. ‘Well, scientifically speaking, traditions are an idiot thing’ to quote Rick Sanchez. I don’t have anything to say about this; doing it because of ‘tradition’ or ‘religion’ or ‘culture’ is an invalid argument to me. It’s different if it was something beneficial, like passing down wealth, but there’s no benefit to having your foreskin removed. (Unless you have to have it for medical reasons, which I will come to). Having your foreskin removed as a ‘rite of passage’ is, well, gross. Cutting off a part of your penis doesn’t ‘make you a man.’ Why would you go against nature like that? Nature gave you a foreskin for a reason.
Harms that come from circumcision:
Affecting sexual function. This is clearly a big one. The foreskin has 20,000 nerve endings, and is there to protect the penis from becoming too sensitive. It also protects against rubbing against abrasive clothing. If the foreskin is cut off it can make the penis desensitized which can decrease sexual pleasure. Moreover, a circumcised penis doesn’t produce natural lubrication. Circumcised men have more difficulty achieving orgasm. The five locations on the foreskin that get removed are the most sensitive parts of the penis. The foreskin also increases male pleasure by sliding up and down the shaft skin. And it increases female pleasure; studies report that women were less likely to orgasm with a circumcised penis and less likely to ‘get wet’ due to the dryness of the circumcised penis.
Psychological effects. Feeling harmed, violated, like ‘less of a man’; feeling cheated of having been robbed of it against their consent, feeling embarrassed, having scars from it; all that jizzle-jazzle. Naturally, having these feelings would lead to depression, negative feelings about sex, and negative body image.
Pain. Circumcision puts infants in a great deal of pain and can be a very traumatic experience for them. Complications such as bleeding, infection, surgical injury, and death in rare cases, can occur.
There are no ‘health reasons.’ There’s no necessary reason to remove the foreskin. An example is ‘circumcision prevents UTIs.’ Women are more likely to get urinary tract infections than men, but they are not subjected to routine circumcision as babies (in Western countries). 96% of infant males do not get UTIs in their first year. Moreover, the rate of harm from circumcision (between 0.2% and 38%) is higher than the ‘harm’ from being uncircumcised. Being uncircumcised cannot affect or harm your health in any way. My proposition for this ‘justification’ is simply in order to protect male circumcision as a ‘ritualistic’ practice. Studies I read online claiming that circumcision is ‘healthier’ have been refuted.
A note: there are some medical necessities for circumcision. When the foreskin won’t ‘retract’, some men prefer to have it removed. However, they decide to do this AS ADULT MEN. I am a pro-choice person in most applications of the word. If a grown man chooses to get circumcised, then he absolutely has every right to. But to cut off the foreskin off a baby who has no say in what’s happening to him is not right.
A final, dark reason on the ‘pro-circumcision’ argument. This one is purely disgusting because it’s messing with one of my favourite things: masturbation. In the 19thcentury, masturbation was believed to be ‘evil’ and something that only the mentally ill participated in. Hence having young boys circumcised was supposed to stop them from masturbating. Doctors would thread silver wire through the foreskin in order to prevent masturbating and erections. (And Dr Kellogg, the guy who invented corn flakes, was one of the perpetrators of this crap).
Fucked up as hell, right?
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From everything I've heard, it's very bad for men and leads to more infections and less sexual pleasure. The only reason for it is religious.
Either way, I think the most important thing is this: Almost no grown man ever decides to do this.
**Doing it to children is child abuse.** We just pretend it's not because we do it to boys who are too young to properly complain and articulate their refusal to go through with it.
If this really had any positive benefits then we should let grown men decide for themselves if they want to go through with it; not boys who are too young to voice their opposition to it, yet old enough to feel the immense pain it brings.
Agreed. However, as mentioned, there are some medical reasons that men have to have it done as adults due to the foreskin not 'retracting'. (One of the articles I link to the British National Health Service website explains this). Also, on a G+ thread a man commented saying he had to have it done as a baby due to his foreskin being too tight (which is the only medical exception I believe) and it was affecting his kidneys and making him 'piss blood.' It's on the 'Just Thinkers' thread; I will tag you in it in case you want to have a look at that conversation.
Way down under in Melbourne, Australia is the story of a tightly done male adult circumcision of the ultimate kind. You’ll never believe the story … or will you?
Around 17 years ago, I became aware that circumcision was of interest to me. How to go about it ? What an embarrassment, how to sneak into a Doctor cost etc. I became more and more frustrated, as I knew I wanted it done. Australia is a hot climate too and I wanted a slick model penis, not a sock, at half mast. I had learnt from school that I was bisexual, I would use the odd opportunity to check out and occasionally talk another classmate into pulling down his pants and letting me give him oral sex. Both circumcised and uncircumcised, although I didn’t know what circumcision was then, I was only ten ! We start pretty early in Australia !
Anyway back to circumcision. I became more and more, frustrated and there didn’t seem to be a way of resolving the issue. Then I had a bereavement in the family. If I couldn’t solve this simple problem… It was a question of honor.
So what I did may surprise many. I am an everyday kind of bloke, a family now, job and the rest of it. So don’t be too shocked. Where there is a will there is a way.
I had been researching on the net at the time and I was reading and seeing pics of tribal and African circumcisions. There are great stories of the Tuli in the Philippines and also teens putting their penis on a log with a piece of twine and the elder slicing off the foreskin, high and tight, leaving a terrific red patched scar.
I decided after much viewing and research that this is what I wanted. I was a bit far from the Philippines and Africa, so this is what happened.
One long weekend when there was a Public holiday, I decided to have a go myself. This is not for the faint hearted.
On the Friday night, I did the usual, a few beers then came home. I opened a bottle of white wine and proceeded to watch an x-rated video. Of course with a long ring barked cock or two. After a while I was ready. A bit of popper amyl and I was more or less ready to have a go. At circumcision.
I knew the skin would be sensitive, so I had purchased from an adult store, delay spray. This I think had lidocaine like when you get Suntan mozzie burns cream from the supermarket only stronger. I applied it to my foreskin until the end of my cock felt number, than usual. Another drink and some poppers, a look at the tightly taut scarred cocks on the TV screen and it was time. Time to join the rest of my male brothers on the planet with a permanently forever nude glans and a stripped pointed helmety penis. Intention purple glans to always lead the way, from that night on or else.
I sized and drew a line working out where to cut and checked this out numerous times. Another drink, more amyl and an inspection of the video playing and I was ready.
I took a very sharp pair a medium size sewing scissors and sat down. Carefully lining them up, I very slowly, and I mean really really slowly, put them through the line on the foreskin I had drawn. I had already pulled the foreskin as hard as I ever could in front of my glans.
Slowly but surely I got the job done. Everything dropped back behind my glans and my foreskin lay on a tissue. A dream come true. I couldn’t believe my absolute relief and satisfaction.
All this time later nearly two decades on, I am still happy. A couple a days later, I consulted a friendly doctor and some stitches were added on the quiet to complete the job.
Result is I have a very tightly circumcised penis, with absolutely no frenulum or foreskin.
The absolute tightest male circumcision possible, for myself and any partner I should choose, whether it be female or male.
Amazingly there is no two tone scar and the circumcision join is one color and height. No different levels of skin height or misalignment.
Nature really does like circumcision.
Holy shit man! That sounds…well, I wouldn't try that at home, kids. Lol. Good on you if it made you happy! I can't believe you did that yourself. Couldn't you go to a doctor? Or was it because you felt too embarrassed? You're lucky you didn't chop your dick off or anything.